Sunday, February 12, 2012

Question for Atheists?

Not religious but science section is slow...



This is a long question so please bare with me.



I'm a physics major (still studying) and i have gone pretty far in understanding particle physics. However there is one major problem i have found. Now all technology we have works like dominoes, a big long line of reactions caused by the laws of physics, e.g computers start when we press the on button which is like a switch completing a circuit allowing directed electricity to flow and through very complicated circuits make our computers act like they do. No laws are broken or anything. The laws are actually what makes it work.



However how is it that we have a conscious choice of how we move, the neurons in our brain send off an impulse which initiates our muscles etc to move, but at an atomic level how do we have the choice of moving the particles that cause the start of these reactions?



I dunno if you get what i mean but yeah.



Haven't been able to find anything online and haven't been to ask my professor so any info you know of will help.Question for Atheists?
You are assuming that we actually have a choice. There is an increasing amount of evidence that we really don't. That any idea of "free will" is actually an illusion caused by our inability to understand the inner workings of our own brain. It's like our conscious mind is not aware of the "under the hood" stuff which is actually controlling a lot more of our concious mind than we think, or would like to believe.
Matter/energy systems come in two types: animate and inanimate. Nondeterministic/deterministic, random/nonrandom, and living/nonliving are equally valid descriptions.

Life is an emergent property possessed by animate matter/energy systems that allows them to act through an internally-imbued volition, as a free-willed agent behaving as a continuous stream of first causes within the confines of the laws of physics.

The behaviour of inanimate systems is governed entirely by forces acting upon them. Animate system, on the other hand, have the ability to truly *act*. That's the very definition of life.Question for Atheists?
Just like all other bodily functions, thoughts are ultimately only the motions of particles, and thoughts are occurring continuously at either a conscious or subconscious level or both. Every choice is a choice that moves particles, and every decision not to choose also moves particles.
Not quite sure why this question was aimed at only atheists...kind of insulting, if you ask me.



You do know that there are those of us that believe in a higher being that enjoy intellectual conversation and might have found this question rather interesting, even if we did not know quite how to answer it...Question for Atheists?
Your question leaves me in doubt that you know what an atheist is... it's a person who does not believe in God. Asking for a little empirical evidence to back up a statement does not require a degree in physics, it's just makes sense to do so.
Not all atheists are physicists. You know that right? We have no control on what happens at the atomic level except for man-mad instruments. How we move is set in our genes and memory.
An oxygen atom does not have a "choice" of reacting to an iron atom creating ferrous oxide.



What creates the impetus is a threshold of neural connections.
you mean ether-physics. All reality vibrates inside a 9-Dimensional Diamond.

The 12-Rays from this great Central Sun project the milky way, like a hologram.
yes but the choices are governed by the laws of physics. you are a product of your particle arrangement.
We don't have control at an atomic level. We move our arm but we aren't controlling individual atoms. We can't, or at least I can't say carbon atom number 6,543,354 move one micron to the left. We aren't even aware of individual atoms. If we were, disease would cease to exist because we could send specific atoms at them. Just send a lot of salt their way and you'd create a solution right around them that would be so saline, it would dry them up. Your question really becomes what is life and we will never really know.



We can understand computers because they are much simpler than life, even very primitive life. But even in computers, we understand the flow of electricity but we can't control individual electrons. Our understanding of the micro is far from achieving this.
I can answer that, but I'm a Christian, so....

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